John discusses big picture Clery Act compliance thinking and leadership with Melinda Latas, Director of Systemwide Clery and Campus Safety Compliance for the Cal State University system. Melinda has extensive knowledge and experience managing Clery compliance issues; has worked in student affairs; and holds a law degree from The Ohio State University Moritz College of Law, an M.A. in Higher Education Student Affairs from The Ohio State University, and a B.S. from Texas A&M. John and Melinda talk about managing Clery Act compliance efforts in a way that empowers campus professionals to have confidence and encourages them to avoid being fooled into thinking that room for improvement indicates impending doom if audited by the Department of Education. Although focused on a higher ed topic, the leadership principals discussed carry over into any effort.